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Removing Trash Bins From MTA Subway Stations a Bad Idea

It's doubtful that riders will carry their trash outside.

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority announced a plan on Monday to study the impact of removing trash bins from City subway stations. The first phase of the plan began two weeks ago when bins were removed from two subway stations.

Although I understand that it is logistically difficult to remove 40 tons of waste each day from City Subway stations, I believe this initiative is misguided and will only lead to more litter and vector in an already dirty transit system. Managing this increased litter on subway platforms will go against the stated goal of this plan to reduce the burden on the MTA’s trash removal efforts. 

It is not clear to me how removing bins will lead to less trash because riders will continue to eat, read newspapers and otherwise go about their normal routines, only now they would have nowhere to properly deposit the material. I for one, am doubtful that riders will consistently carry their trash out with them.

I commend the MTA for adding additional trains to remove waste from subway platforms in a more timely fashion, and believe that is an appropriate way to address the "unsightliness and malodor" in the subway system. I believe we can build on this positive step and urge the MTA to work with the City to make the subway system a cleaner, healthier environment for everyone.

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Anthony Vassallo October 29, 2011 at 04:18 pm
If they want to minimize trash and get rid of trash cans, then the MTA shut down all places that sell anything in stations. Let the penny counters see how much overall revenue goes down.
kurtis L. Miller October 29, 2011 at 05:46 pm
It's an unfortunate event if it occurs but from what I can see I believe if they remove the garbage cans from every station what will follow is massive lay offs. Big business needs to be more concerned about the people who support their businesses not how are they going to turn a bigger profit. Why create large unemployment numbers and add to the existing crime waves? They need to think about these things before they take action the consequences will affect us all. They them selves will stand a greater chance of being the victim of a law biting citizen turned desperate turned criminal. Everything we do matters and affects those around our selves and ultimately us.
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SimonofProspect October 31, 2011 at 12:40 am
So what is the MTA's plan here? Actually encourage people to throw all their refuse on the floor of the subway, tracks, station etc. The more I hear about the stupid ideas the MTA comes up with the more I am convinced that anyone from the MTA never actually rides the subway, buses or trains.
Andrea S. Taylor October 31, 2011 at 03:11 pm
What about the $$ spent on the mta campaign instructing riders to throw their garbage in the bins? "Intelligence Stops Here"
Larry November 3, 2011 at 07:52 pm
They first need to ban and fine heavily all eating and drinking in the subways. Period - with the possible exception of water. (including those precious yuppie commuter cups so dear to the hearts of the self-styled harried slopers as the F train courses through bourgeois Bohemian bliss.)
John Ness November 4, 2011 at 11:14 am
Generally, I don't think there are enough public trash cans in Park Slope. It's always struck me as strange. Extending that problem underground--and taking away the one place where a local might reliably predict there would be a can to use--seems like an awful idea.
Josh November 7, 2011 at 02:43 pm
There are virtually no trash cans in Tokyo and that place is clean. This is more about teaching people to respect their city and less about having a place to dump their stuff.
John Ness November 7, 2011 at 03:00 pm
Yeah, but I bet 8 million New Yorkers have 8 million different ideas about how to "respect their city." Everyone understands what a trash can means.
Matthew in BK November 8, 2011 at 12:00 pm
It is certainly possible for human beings to learn how to carry their trash home and put it in the trash there, but it requires a sustained public education program to achieve that. I am constantly amazed at the amount of litter in NYC, some of it is blown out of public trash bins by the wind, but most of it is carelessly discarded by New Yorkers. There are plenty of examples internationally of cities, states and countries that have addressed this issue, but it always requires a sustained public education program. Public education programs are not free and require purchasing advertising on prime time television, so the MTA needs to work with the City, State, neighboring cities, counties and states, and the federal government to develop an education program and a unified strategy to clean up America.
Josh November 8, 2011 at 02:11 pm
Totally agree - we need a long-term plan and reeducation of the public. Throwing more trash cans at the public (or less, for that matter) just changes one variable, but the carelessness and disrespect remains. It's quite amazing when you see someone drop litter literally feet from a trash can. When I see that, I know that adding more receptacles won't do a thing to change people.
Parksloper November 8, 2011 at 04:18 pm
I said this on the article about the breast cancer walk. I was amazed at the ADULTS who left their trash all around. If you can't find a trash can take it with you till you find one, duh. We could do away with alternate street parking if everyone threw their trash in the garbage and swept up around their homes. We don't need re-education. Kids won't learn when they see their parents dropping trash on the ground. Some people don't care, especially when it's not their neighborhood. No amount of education can teach some people manners and class.
Mrs. Davis November 9, 2011 at 03:20 pm
The cities where this has been effective are cities where the system is shut for a few hours (including Tokyo). This closure allows employees to catch up on maintenance and clean-up. NY will not do this. The cleanup crews can not keep with the trash.
I have seen a seemingly uneaten open container of Chinese food placed on the steps in the Nostrand Avenue station. It was like some kind of rat feeder. Education/campaigns will not help the individual that left it there. Until we become a more cooperative society, we'll need lots of cleanup crews. People simply can't be trusted to carry their trash out of the subway.
AnneMarie Lock November 9, 2011 at 07:38 pm
So true. I was amazed at the trash on the streets after the marathon this weekend. And there were trashcans nearby!
Canaryo November 14, 2011 at 08:27 pm
More tickets need to be given to people who litter, eat and drink in the subway, whether on the trains or in the stations. Not only would this cut down on the amount of trash in the subways, it would create a revenue stream that could be put into trash removal. No eating/drinking throughout the subway system needs to be much more strictly enforced.
More effort needs to be made to separate recyclable from non-recyclable trash in the stations, as well as the city at large. Tickets could be given for not using proper receptacles. I agree, re-education is key, and as much as I hate to say it, most of the most effective ways to do so is through people's pockets.
John Ness November 14, 2011 at 09:47 pm
Give out tickets to litterbugs and to dangerous drivers. This city has a litter problem and bad driving problem, but it puts its finite resources into parking violations, which don't affect quality of life nearly as much, as far as I can see.
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